Refuse the Council
2-step choice
NO → NO again → ✓ Complete
Main completion route
Refuse the Council of Crowns Ending
How to complete the No-Council route, what happens after refusing Pia, and how this path unlocks the Royal Advisor romance.
Compare all endings →How to Get the No-Council Ending
Quick answer
- 1.Reach Pia at about 1500 Population
- 2.Choose NO when she asks you to join
- 3.She asks again
- 4.Choose NO a second time
- 5.The No-Council main route completes
- 6.Keep playing to 2750 Population for Royal Advisor Romance
The first NO is not the final decision. You must refuse Pia again at the confirmation.
Route map
1500
Pia asks you to join
NO
Not finished yet
NO again
Final confirmation
✓
No-Council complete
2750+
Royal Advisor Romance
⚠ Save before Pia
Choosing NO at Pia's final confirmation commits this save to the No-Council branch.
Want to see both routes?
Save before Pia, then use one save for Council and another for No-Council.
Main walkthrough →Do You Have to Say No Twice?
Yes.
The real route lock happens at the confirmation, not the first question.
Before this route
Follow the main story until Pia arrives.
Say NO to Pia's first offer
Pia
Join the Council of Crowns?
NO ← Choose this
Not finished yet. Pia asks you to confirm.
Final confirmation
Pia asks once more whether you wish to join.
NO · required
Complete the No-Council route
YES
Switch back into the Council route
If you said NO the first time, choosing YES at the confirmation still joins the Council.
Try the decision
Pia
Join the Council of Crowns?
Main route complete
What Happens After You Refuse the Council?
✓ No-Council route complete
You refused the Council of Crowns.
- Main story: Complete
- Game: Still playable
- Next major route: Royal Advisor Romance at 2750 Population
Does the Game End if You Refuse the Council?
No.
The main storyline is considered complete, but you can continue ruling your kingdom, finish side quests, build long-term projects, and unlock the Royal Advisor romance route.
How to Unlock Royal Advisor Romance
♥ Royal Advisor Romance
Available after:
- ✓ No-Council main route
- ✓ Continue playing
- ✓ Reach 2750 Population
Then the Royal Advisor can approach you about a personal conversation.
Royal Advisor Romance Guide →Population countdown
Enter your current Population to see how much is left.
Romance readiness
Status
Not ready yet
Refuse Pia twice at the confirmation.
Royal Advisor Not Appearing?
1. Did you truly refuse Pia twice?
If you only said NO the first time, return to Pia's confirmation.
2. Did the main route complete?
The romance starts after the No-Council main route is finished.
3. Is Population at least 2750?
Keep growing.
4. Did you already decline the Advisor's personal conversation or date?
Should You Refuse the Council?
It depends on your goal. Neither main route is a failure.
Choose NO if you want
- Royal Advisor Romance
- Shorter main-story completion
- To skip the Marshland / Council induction storyline
Choose YES instead if you want
- Council of Crowns storyline
- Marshland dispute
- Council ceremony
- 3000+ Council meetings
Want everything? Save before Pia and play both.
Is No-Council the faster main completion?
Yes, it is the shorter verified main route.
Once you choose NO at Pia's final confirmation, the main story completes. The Council route still continues through 1750, 2000, 2100, 2250, and 2500 Population.
If your goal is simply to complete the main story quickly, the No-Council route is the shorter path.
Can You Join the Council After Refusing?
Not after the final No-Council confirmation on that save.
To see the Council route, load a save from before Pia's final choice or use another playthrough.
Council Route Guide →